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Lovers wanting to explore the swinging lifestyle

by on Feb.24, 2012, under Unsorted


Hi. I am wondering what your thoughts are on lovers that want to
swing. We have been lovers for 4 yrs now and would like to explore the
swinging lifestyle. Is it an option for us?

Answering in two fashions for lack of information.
lov·er  lover – via
1. a person who is in love with another.
2. a person who has a sexual or romantic relationship with another.
3. a person with whom one conducts an extramarital sexual affair.
Miranda’s with examples 1 & 2 and Aarron’s as answer to example 3.

By Miranda-
I think for lovers swinging is sometimes an okay option and other times not. Remember when you’re just lovers there is no legal document (not that married couples don’t deal with this as well) binding you two together so sometimes insecurities lead to strain on your relationship and it ends because you really can’t handle your lover with another person. Also sometimes through swinging I’ve seen couples who were just lovers end because the other found another he or she fell for. Usually what happens in that situation is the lovers split the sheets and realize they really weren’t as secure as they thought or as committed. It happens in marriages too, so really if you and your lover want to venture into the lifestyle do it. Yes it’s an option for you and I wish you all the best. If you have any other questions regarding entering the lifestyle feel free to write back in, we love to answer!!!

By Aarron-
Swinging is not about infidelity. It is about trust and partnership. It is a sharing.
If you are already having a secret affair and in turn putting your partners at risk for possible emotional, health, social, and maybe financial damage I certainly don’t think tossing some swinging into the pot is a good idea too.
Compounding the damages you may eventually cause already is NOT cool.
If for no other reason than the simple fact that sexual activity with others does carry a risk of sexually transmitted infections (even if you always use condoms) and it is NOT fair to put people at risk without their knowledge.

That was my official answer.

Now read on…

Personal Note about this topic in regards to how I took the question:
About three years ago we met a couple who have the most wonderful of marriages. They are also a lot of fun and have been swinging for many years. Within just a few months of meeting this couple we became very good friends and regularly played together. We are all friends in and out of the bedroom.
How it relates is this… This set of friends who have the most amazing of marriages and seem perfectly suited to each other had been lovers for years before seeking their respective divorces.
They did not swing while married to others, but nonetheless it is a case of lovers become married swingers.
In our bedroom travels we have run into this a few times.
We have also been contacted via swingers dating sites by “lovers” and met people at clubs and parties who one or both are married to another person and swinging behind their backs.
We do not play with such people. We do not wish to be a part in anybodies cheating. Most people we know feel the same way, but I will admit that there are also a lot of people out there who don’t care.
So, to answer the question “Is it an option for us?” Yes it is.



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Would exploring help me enjoy my wife more?

by on Jan.30, 2012, under Unsorted


My wife is very conservative in her sexuality, and unfortunately, it
gets a it boring for me. Lately I’ve taken to masturbating also when
we make love. Needless to say, I’ve been fantasizing quite alot and
masturbating alone more. So my question is, would exploring group sex
with others (perhaps with male and female couple) help me enjoy my
wife more? She’s definitely not into it, so I would be doing it on my
own. If you think this could help, how do I procede to find partners?

By Miranda-
Okay so you should probably let your very conservative wife know that you’re bored with her and wish to pursue sex elsewhere.
If you plan on doing this behind your wife’s back…shame on you because somehow I truly don’t see your wife who in the first sentence of your question you call VERY conservative being okay with you sleeping with other people.
Now with that being said, if by chance you have spoken to your wife about such things then YES sometimes it helps couples kindle an old flame by having both or just one person of a couple take up the lifestyle. They sometimes take the situations home with them so in the bedroom they can verbally retell their sexual adventures which in turn arouses the other.
Now if you’re just looking to come home and have sex with your wife while thinking of the other sexual adventure and not share it with her or have her even know you are swinging, then NO it’s probably a really poor idea.
I don’t mean to be sound so judgmental and if your wife knows you’re thinking about taking up the lifestyle then fantastic, but you said you have been masturbating alone more and when you said you would be “doing it on my own,” it kind of sends up a red flag that your wife doesn’t know.
But if she does know I do apologize for any accusations.
Now in finding partners, all you need to do is find a swinger site such as Adult Friend Finder, join the site and create a profile. The rest is easy, just wait for inquiries and hope that as a single male you get chosen for play dates. Single men get a bad rap in the lifestyle because some men are dishonest about their profiles and also there are TONS of you out there, so the market tends to be over saturated. If you can make a good honest name for yourself in the swinger community you truly have it set because most single men are referred by other couples to other couples. So it would almost like building a clientele. I wish you the best on your journeys and hope you and your wife are able to get the passions of love flowing again openly and honestly. Hope you have a wonderful Valentines Day.

By Aarron-
From the wording of your question I too think it sounds like cheating rather than swinging.
They are two different things entirely.
I will however skip the lecture and go with the assumption that you have spoken to your wife and she has given you her blessings because she is conservative in bed, but open minded in other ways.
Yes it will spice things up in most cases. It can completely reinvigorate some people even.
As Miranda said… making some profiles will do the trick, but only if you do it well. The swingers websites are full of single men seeking no strings sex. Couples have plenty to choose from, but still it is hard for couples to find single playing men because many are rude, don’t understand the swingers mentalities, don’t play by couples rules well, flake out, or are simply not very attractive in general when it comes to appearance, dress, attitude, or manners.
To be successful playing single as a male you must have an entire package worth the couples time.
The males who do succeed at this are very sought after.
Another option is to attend meet and greets.
These are off premise (no sex) meetings held at bars, restaurants, coffee shops, etc… depending on your area where pretty much anybody can show up.
There are usually a few such regular gatherings in every major city and often a monthly such meet up in most smaller cities.
Finding them without knowing people is the hardest part.
Some are advertised in groups on sites while others are strictly word of mouth.

Here are a few previous Swingers Attic Topics that may help you in your endeavors.
Responding to a woman’s personal ad
That one is for obvious reasons.
Finding single men for swinging
A question from the other side… a couple asking about finding single men.
The proper order of the pictures for your profile
I used a female for the pictures, but let me assure you that if you don’t do the photo thing correctly as a male wishing to play alone that you WILL fail. As a male wishing the attention of couples and maybe single females you must have a well put together profile and that includes good photos. Don’t be another idiot with a cock shot and a blocked out face who wonders why the gals are not filling their inbox with requests for sex.
Solo And Traveling
My vanilla bar pickup advice at the end also kinda applies to meet and greets.
I am assuming you are out of practice in the pick up arena since you have been married long enough to be having the types of issues you have portrayed.

For a site to check out (it really depends on your area as to how busy a site is) I would most likely suggest SwingLifeStyle because of what you are seeking.
My wife mention AFF, but the single male ratio on that site is super high so I’m going with SwingLifeStyle.

Lastly, your wife may not be as conservative as you think.
I’ve unwrapped the package of many a conservative woman over the years to find that I had unleashed a beast.
Humans are animals. We all crave unless something is wrong or broken in us.
Your wife most likely has desires and fantasies too, even if she isn’t willing to discuss them or maybe even admit it. They may not be of a group sex sort, but they exist.

I hate recommending this book simply because of the title, but I have read it and it is pretty on spot with a lot of things.
It is short, cheesy, filled with a lot of obvious things, but it also has the key ingredients to bring a woman over if you have the patience and desire.
Getting Your Wife Or Girlfriend To Become A Swinger
This next one I haven’t read, but I know someone who has and they said it was worth the read.
Also the second review listed on amazon is by a well known swingers lifestyle blogger and she liked it, so that is something.
How To Turn Your Wife Into a Swinger

Good Luck!

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